From sentto-44114-2019-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Feb 19 05:15:20 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 6239 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2000 05:15:19 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 19 Feb 2000 05:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29756 invoked by uid 40001); 19 Feb 2000 05:18:18 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 29753 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2000 05:18:17 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (208.48.218.20) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 19 Feb 2000 05:18:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2019-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2000 05:18:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23931 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2000 05:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.10.35 with QMQP; 19 Feb 2000 05:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (199.0.216.101) by 10.1.10.27 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2000 05:18:15 -0000 Received: from bob (ppp7.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.7]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08409; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:17:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000219000012.00b3e370@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: Steven Belknap Cc: loglanists@ucsd.edu, logli@ucsd.edu, lojban@onelist.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:18:12 -0500 From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" Subject: [lojban] Re: LogFest 2000? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 05:26 PM 02/18/2000 -0600, Steven Belknap wrote: >Perhaps LogFest 2000 could be a place/time for discussion of Loglan/lojban >rapprochement. Have you made plans for LogFest as of yet? No. I have sent feelers out to a couple of key people asking when they would like it to be, but feeling multiple people out via email sometimes takes a month or more. It will be in July or August, as usual here in Fairfax VA. We bend over backwards for people coming from out of the area to fit their schedule, and in particular are hoping to have fluent Lojbanist Nick Nicholas attend again as he did last year. But I have not yet heard from him on his schedule, nor from others such as yourself who have expressed interest in coming from out of town (though I admit I have not yet asked you and others - we wanted to weed a few dates out first). Certainly if TLI people want to attend and have discussion on rapprochement that would require voting member input, that is a good time for such a meeting, as voting members make it a priority to attend, but a good number of the voting members are worldwide and can never attend any meeting in person (we consult via phone and/or IRC to include these people on key issues, but members' meetings are rather prone to length and disorder. We can have a LLG directors meeting a bit more easily apart from LogFest, since most of the directors can make it into town for a weekend meeting at TLI convenience given reasonable notice (and we have easier time meeting the agenda/notice requirements for a special director's meeting). If we had a preliminary idea as to what the issues were and could sound out members in advance, say at LogFest, that would be a more productive meeting to conduct *business*. The only business that would HAVE to involve members would be something requiring a Bylaw change, and we have provisions to do that, albeit very slowly, at any time necessary. I would also feel compelled to get approval from the full membership to overturn any position that was originally set by the membership (this would include any weakening of the Lojban baseline, but I already know from informal member consultations that there is no support at all for such a weakening, which is basically what And Rosta said). But if the goal of a get-together is not business, but rather community rebuilding, LogFest is the place for it to happen, and we can leave the business for Alex and me to work out in consultation with our respective boards and/or memberships as appropriate. ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org (newly updated!) --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa. Rates as low as 2.9 percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards credit you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at Click Here ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com