From sentto-44114-2026-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sun Feb 20 01:59:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 7532 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2000 01:59:20 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 20 Feb 2000 01:59:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2470 invoked by uid 40001); 20 Feb 2000 02:02:19 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 2467 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2000 02:02:18 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.48.218.15) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 20 Feb 2000 02:02:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2026-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2000 02:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16299 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2000 19:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by 10.1.10.38 with QMQP; 19 Feb 2000 19:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fb02.eng00.mindspring.net) (207.69.229.20) by 10.1.10.27 with SMTP; 19 Feb 2000 19:33:06 -0000 Received: from [207.69.119.142] (user-37katkr.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.118.155]) by fb02.eng00.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07106; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:32:59 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rmcivor@m3.sprynet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000219003139.00b68a80@127.0.0.1> References: <38ADF9E9.6B21178C@peakpeak.com> <200002171027.CAA22319@mailbox1.ucsd.edu> To: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" , "Rex F. May" , "Robert A. McIvor" Cc: loglanists@ucsd.edu, logli@ucsd.edu, lojban@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:03:05 -0500 X-eGroups-From: "Robert A. McIvor" From: "Robert A. McIvor" Subject: Re: [lojban] Dr. James Cooke Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Robert A. McIvor" >We changed the set of permissible initials and medials to make things >linguistically symmetric (and hence more algorithmic) - GMR had replaced >the original symmetry by an irregular collection of permissibles, based on >"taste tests" that we knew were biased by English speakers and reportedly >by controversial statistical analysis (RAM was the person who had raised >the controversy and is more qualified than I am to discuss it). > Maybe, but I prefer to leave it dead. >We added the apostrophe, and the corresponding close-comma for the >syllable-dividing reasons I stated in another post. I thought Loglan has had a syllable dividing close-comma since long before the split. Lo,is is the example given. > >Several months later, we found an ambiguity bug in JCB's complex making >algorithm, which he and I had written down in its then current form when I >visited him in May 1986. I have read nothing to indicate that TLI has ever >corrected that bug in their version - presumably RAM knows. (I'll provide >details separately if anyone cares). Fixing that bug was the most >significant change we made to the morphology after the start. We did, as soon as you pointed it out, but perhaps not in the same fashion. Sincerely, Robert A. McIvor (rmcivor@mac.com) To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com