From sentto-44114-2051-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Mon Feb 21 04:00:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 9575 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2000 04:00:22 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 21 Feb 2000 04:00:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 23161 invoked by uid 40001); 21 Feb 2000 04:03:29 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23158 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2000 04:03:28 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (208.48.218.21) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 21 Feb 2000 04:03:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2051-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2000 04:03:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 16641 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2000 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Feb 2000 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spdmbaaa.compuserve.com) (149.174.206.153) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 21 Feb 2000 00:35:24 -0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id TAA25448; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:35:23 -0500 (EST) Sender: Emerson Mitchell To: "And Rosta" , "A Rosta" , "Vjacxeslav' Ivanov'" , "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" , "Ron Hale-Evans" Cc: loglanists@ucsd.edu, logli@ucsd.edu, lojban@onelist.com Message-ID: <200002201935_MC2-99F2-DD0D@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:34:47 -0500 X-eGroups-From: Emerson Mitchell From: Emerson Mitchell Subject: RE: RE: Re[2]: [lojban] Dr. James Cooke Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Emerson Mitchell -------------------- Begin Original Message -------------------- Message text written by "And Rosta" "3. Find an additional Little Word doublet that is unassigned in both dialects. Rather than having toggle functions, then, one doublet would introduce Lojban mode and the other would introduce classical mode. This option seems the most hassle-free, but I don't have the relevant wordlists available to assess its viability." -------------------- End Original Message -------------------- I suggest 'Hoa Lojban.' to start speaking Lojban when ones audience might include Loglan auditors, and 'Xo'a Loglan.' in the other direction. Note the full sentence stops, preventing attachment to the following speech, this is a deliberate part of the suggestion. Then treat them like toggles. If one objects that these speech fragments are not sentences, one can obviously expand to full sentences along the lines of 'nnext I'm sepeaking . . .', but I don't think that would be necessary. Or just toggle and count on the sense to disambiguate. A beautiful example of this was mailed earlier, although I am not sure whoall got it. Here's another friendly suggestion: each side should check the other sides dictionary for words that could be incorporated unchanged without damage to the respective grammers. The Loglan Institute would have to relax the copyright a bit, so maybe this is a non-starter. I know JCB would disapprove. My first thought was that each language could start by making the name for the other an accepted primitive. The generalization to adding other words just popped into my head. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa! ZERO! Rates as low as 0.0% Intro APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the credit you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at: http://click.egroups.com/1/966/1/_/17627/_/951105787/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com