From sentto-44114-2070-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu Feb 24 07:39:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 15211 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2000 07:39:17 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 24 Feb 2000 07:39:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23277 invoked by uid 40001); 24 Feb 2000 07:42:39 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23274 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2000 07:42:38 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.48.218.12) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 24 Feb 2000 07:42:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2070-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2000 07:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10209 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2000 07:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Feb 2000 07:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (199.0.216.101) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 24 Feb 2000 07:42:37 -0000 Received: from bob (dynamic95.cais.com [207.226.56.95]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04622 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:41:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000224013258.00b2b890@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: lojban@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <50.1f31c78.25e61b06@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:42:15 -0500 X-eGroups-From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" Subject: Re: [lojban] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 12:26 AM 02/24/2000 -0500, BestATN@aol.com wrote: >How do you say in Lojban "I miss you" as a man might say to his wife when >she's in hospital and he has to work? This sounds more attitudinal than anything one would claim with a predicate sentence. The basic attitude of missing someone is probably be'uro'i (lack/absence felt emotionally), which you might color given the situation with o'unai (stress), o'e (closeness), a'a (attentive), and of course .iu. You can also use dai with another attitudinal to indicate empathic identification with how she is feeling (oiro'udai - empathy with her pain). Attitudinals are things which require exploration to see how many ways you can apply them. They are all under selma'o UI (and most words under selma'o UI can be used in some circumstances to indicate attitude or emotional state either alone or as modifiers of other words). lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org (newly updated!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shabang!com is the place to get your FREE eStore, Absolutely FREE Forever. If you have any desires to sell your products or services online, or you want to expand your customer base for FREE, Come check out Shabang!com FREE eStores! http://click.egroups.com/1/1299/1/_/17627/_/951378157/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com