From a.rosta@pmail.net Fri Mar  3 05:19:44 2000
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:19:44 -0000
From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@pmail.net>
Subject: final clubs
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John:
>Which leads me to the following challenge, due to Quine.  A student at Yale
>may belong to zero or more clubs.  Some clubs are final clubs.  A final
>club is defined as "a club such that membership in it precludes membership
>in any other final club".
> 
>Express the definition of "final club" in good Lojban without circularity.

Is the definition not inherently circular? The only way you'd know what
was a Final Club would be by listing all Final Clubs, at least given the
'definition' you give.

Or is the definition more like this: "a club such that membership in it
precludes membership in any (every) other club that precludes membership in 
any (some) other club"?

At any rate, the problem is in understand what counts as a final club.
One you do that, then defining it in Lojban is trivial.

--And.