From sentto-44114-2104-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Mar 01 14:10:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 25520 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 14:10:06 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 14:10:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10287 invoked by uid 40001); 1 Mar 2000 14:13:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 10284 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 14:13:54 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.48.218.12) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 14:13:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2104-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2000 14:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28473 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 14:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Mar 2000 14:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (199.0.216.101) by mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 14:13:46 -0000 Received: from bob (209-8-89-87.dynamic.cais.com [209.8.89.87] (may be forged)) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06787 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:13:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000301091024.00b57570@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: lojban@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <20000229193641.94158.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:13:06 -0500 X-eGroups-From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" Subject: Re: [lojban] 2 lujvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 11:36 AM 02/29/2000 -0800, michael helsem wrote: >1) there is a word i am using, "sharawadgi", to indicate things >which contain opposites such as a pattern of red & green, or >hot & cold (Baked Alaska), ktp. i am thinking the way to say >this in Lojban is 'opposite-quality-conjunction-quality' DUTKAIRKAXYKAI. The original example in Loglan of what is now joi referred to the stereotypical multicolored beach ball. This suggests something like dutki gunma as a metaphorical basis. >2) if one tends to count by fives of things (as we think in >"twos" (opposites), would this be: 'five-basis' MUMCMU, 'fivesome-basis' >MUMEMCMU; or would the latter become, as a >lujvo, MUMYMEMCMU ? > >3) & also, how to talk about thinking-in terms of-a given >count-as basic? 'basic unit of counted things' CMUTERKANCU, or >'basic set of things counted' CMUSELKANCU ? (i am leaning >toward the latter). I would base both 2 and 3 on kancu, but have not thought deeply about it. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org (newly updated!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FREE ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! Xpertsite has thousands of experts who are willing to answer your questions for FREE. Go to Xpertsite today and put your mind to rest. http://click.egroups.com/1/1404/1/_/17627/_/951920028/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com