From sentto-44114-2144-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Mar 03 03:21:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 28581 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 03:21:19 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 03:21:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24737 invoked by uid 40001); 3 Mar 2000 03:21:15 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 24734 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 03:21:13 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.48.218.12) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 03:21:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2144-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2000 03:21:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25274 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 03:21:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Mar 2000 03:21:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO snufflelufagas.bofh.asn.au) (139.130.48.34) by mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 03:21:01 -0000 Received: from river.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by snufflelufagas.bofh.asn.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id OAA30838; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:17:59 +1100 Received: by forest.bofh.asn.au via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for lojban@onelist.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:59:51 +1100 (EST) To: "marios cmavirn" Cc: lojban@onelist.com References: <20000301150441.59696.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: "marios cmavirn"'s message of "Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:04:41 GMT" Message-ID: Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 02 Mar 2000 14:59:50 +1100 X-eGroups-From: Peter Moulder From: Peter Moulder Subject: [lojban] selbri names (was Re: Peter Moulder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Peter Moulder "marios cmavirn" writes: > From: "marios cmavirn" > > .i coi rodo > > .i la peter cusku di'e ^^^^^^^^ In the past, people on this list have lojbanised it as `la pityr.'. [Repeating in Lojban: .i pu fanva zoi kuot. Peter .kuot la lojban. fu lu la pityr. li'u] > >co'o mi'e xirma litru > >[explanation of `la xirma litru'] > If 'xirma litru' is a name shouldn't it be a cmene? I was going from Chapter 6 ("sumti") of the reference grammar. In section 2, it gives the example of `la cribe', which it translates as `the-one-named ``bear'''. However, I'm not sure to what extent selbri names are appropriate in the context of "co'o mi'e ...". [Repeating in Lojban: .i le remoi ckupaupau be le xamoi ckupau be la'e zoi kuot. The Lojban Reference Grammar .kuot be'o be'o cu sabji le mupli po'u lu la cribe li'u noi se fanva fu zoi kuot. the-one-named ``bear'' .kuot .i ku'i mi na djuno le du'u le selbri cmene cu mapti zoi kuot. co'o mi'e .kuot] > 'kleinmoedig' (littlebrave) [...] either small and courageous, or > had little courage. Of course I prefer the first. Comments welcome] (My guess is for `small & courageous', but I don't know Dutch.) co'o mi'e xirma litru ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/937/1/_/17627/_/952053664/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com