From sentto-44114-2152-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Mar 03 13:25:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 29246 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 13:25:32 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 13:25:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11052 invoked by uid 40001); 3 Mar 2000 13:25:33 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 11049 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 13:25:32 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.48.218.13) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 13:25:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2152-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2000 13:25:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18187 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 13:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Mar 2000 13:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (192.117.188.36) by mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 13:25:30 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.162.216]) by out.newmail.net ; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:23:45 +02:00 To: "lojban@onelist.com" Priority: normal In-reply-to: <38BBDAC5.E500CFD1@reutershealth.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <95212582601@out.newmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:27:30 +0200 X-eGroups-From: "Adam Raizen" From: "Adam Raizen" Reply-To: araizen@newmail.net Subject: Re: [lojban] Use and abuse of sets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Adam Raizen" la djan cusku di'e > > However, there should be a gismu for mathematical set, since this > > *is* a logical language after all -- we shouldn't be forced to use lujvo. > > "klesi" is the gismu for "set", because classes and sets are the same > concept, except for certain exceptions among the transfinite classes. Not that I know much about set theory, but wouldn't the place structure of the bridi for "mathematical set" have to be close to "x1 is the set with members x2 (complete specification)". "klesi" seems better for subset/superset. i co'o mi'e adam araizen@newmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------- The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. --Robert Heinlein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAXIMIZE YOUR CARD, MINIMIZE YOUR RATE! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/1/_/17627/_/952089932/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com