From sentto-44114-2168-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Mar 03 20:24:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 29902 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:24:52 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:24:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 23602 invoked by uid 40001); 3 Mar 2000 20:24:38 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23599 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:24:37 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.48.218.10) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:24:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2168-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2000 20:24:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 3686 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Mar 2000 20:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.45) by mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 75511 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2000 20:24:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000303202426.75510.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.41.247.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:24:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.38] To: lojban@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:24:26 PST X-eGroups-From: "Jorge Llambias" From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: [lojban] The Quine challenge Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Jorge Llambias" >>It depends how you interpret it. John interpreted in two >>different ways in his example. > >It does not depend on how you interpret it. Yes it does. :) >If e is in A then e is not in B > >Let e be in B > >It then follows that e is not in A. > >QED That is all true, but it does not address the issue. Consider these two statements: - Membership in A is compatible with membership in any other club. - Membership in B precludes membership in any other club. Are they contradictory? I'm waiting for John's answer on this. co'o mi'e xorxes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAXIMIZE YOUR CARD, MINIMIZE YOUR RATE! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/1/_/17627/_/952115068/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com