Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 27979 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 21:34:35 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 21:34:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11189 invoked by uid 40001); 2 Mar 2000 21:38:29 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 11186 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 21:38:27 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (208.48.218.21) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 21:38:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2137-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2000 21:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7656 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 21:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Mar 2000 21:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 21:37:59 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21897 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:37:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <38BEDF3C.8CFB3682@reutershealth.com> Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en To: "lojban@onelist.com" References: <20000302020336.76539.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:38:04 -0500 X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Subject: [lojban] Final clubs (was: Sets etc.) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 37 From: John Cowan Jorge Llambias wrote: > I took "precludes" as descriptive of a situation, not as > a membership rule of the club! Ah. > So the definition of final club has to preclude some > sets of membership rules like the one above to be > a real definition. True. However, the aim is not to find out in what situations the list of final clubs can be determined, but simply to get a non-circular definition of "final club" against the set of cases where it is meaningful. > What is Quine's answer? That there is no non-circular > definition? Actually, he says there is an answer but leaves it up to us. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/936/1/_/17627/_/952033085/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com