Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 27870 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 20:55:28 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 20:55:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9703 invoked by uid 40001); 2 Mar 2000 20:59:17 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 9700 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 20:59:16 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.48.218.12) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 20:59:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2132-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Mar 2000 20:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 12804 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Mar 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.243) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 80305 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2000 20:59:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20000302205904.80304.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.176.48.59 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:59:03 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.176.48.59] To: lojban@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:59:03 PST X-eGroups-From: "michael helsem" From: "michael helsem" Subject: [lojban] re: lei, le'i Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1199 Lines: 31 From: "michael helsem" One sees that LE'I POI BRODA KU'O BRODE asserts that it is the set which is BRODA; & in LEI POI BRODA KU'O BRODE it is each member of the mass. In English nowadays it is customary to refer to "the --- community" when a set or a mass is intended, & in fact certain forms of disinformation result from not having this distinction immediately available. (But LEI/LE'I is not the only way to do it in Lojban.) Using DJACU seems to me a most obscure example--won't be really be using DJACU modifying something else, a quantity gismu say, most of the time? A Midnight of Ravens: LEI XEKCPI Blackbirds in a Pie: LE'I POI NENRI LE PALTYTITLA KU'O ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/937/1/_/17627/_/952030744/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com