Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 29918 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:31:53 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:31:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23824 invoked by uid 40001); 3 Mar 2000 20:31:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23821 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:31:53 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:31:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2170-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2000 20:31:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 31300 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 20:31:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Mar 2000 20:31:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.210) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 20:31:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 26770 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2000 20:31:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000303203143.26769.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.41.247.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:31:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.38] To: lojban@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:31:43 PST X-eGroups-From: "Jorge Llambias" From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: [lojban] final clubs Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1279 Lines: 38 From: "Jorge Llambias" la djan cusku di'e >No, it is possible to identify the final clubs, although some >configurations >of clubs and rules create indeterminate results, as Jorge has pointed out. Not just "some configurations", practically all configurations. If preclusion is taken as symmetrical, the situation is even less interesting. In that case, for final clubs to be well defined, membership in any club must preclude membership in every other club. And then I must go back to my original solution: Definition: Every club is a final club. To disprove it all you have to do is find a configuration where some clubs are not final and yet final clubs are well defined. I don't think there is one. co'o mi'e xorxes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2121/1/_/17627/_/952115504/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com