From sentto-44114-2211-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Mar 04 21:39:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 31647 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2000 21:39:44 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 3336 invoked by uid 40001); 4 Mar 2000 21:39:50 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 3333 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2000 21:39:50 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (208.48.218.21) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2211-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Mar 2000 21:39:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12276 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2000 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (192.117.188.36) by mta2.onelist.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2000 21:39:40 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.165.138]) by out.newmail.net ; Sat, 04 Mar 2000 23:37:53 +02:00 To: lojban@onelist.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20000303170336.62544.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <95224187401@out.newmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@onelist.com; contact lojban-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:41:36 +0200 X-eGroups-From: "Adam Raizen" From: "Adam Raizen" Reply-To: araizen@newmail.net Subject: Re: [lojban] Sets etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Adam Raizen" la xorxes cusku di'e > la adam cusku di'e > > >lei pano mlatu cu jersi le bolci > > > >Let's say that only 4 of the individual cats actually chased the ball. > >Why can't I consider those 4 to be one of 2 members of the mass, > >the other member being those that didn't chase the ball. > > Of course you can. > > lei vo mlatu cu jersi le bolci ije lei drata mlatu na go'i > > Nothing stops you from describing the same situation in > a different way when you want to point out different > aspects of it. I meant without describing it in a different way. There is a group of 10 cats. A ball rolls by. A few of them (4, it so happens) chase after it. I say, "lei pano mlatu cu jersi le bolci". I have thereby created a mass, which I may consider to have 2 members, the chasers and the non-chasers. i co'o mi'e adam araizen@newmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------- The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. --Robert Heinlein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/937/1/_/17627/_/952205988/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com