From sentto-44114-2367-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Apr 12 19:24:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 15508 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 19:24:39 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 19:24:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 21316 invoked by uid 40001); 12 Apr 2000 20:25:38 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 21313 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 20:25:37 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 20:25:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2367-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2000 20:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29338 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 20:25:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Apr 2000 20:25:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 20:25:33 -0000 Received: (from cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20593 for lojban@onelist.com; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004122035.QAA20593@locke.ccil.org> To: lojban@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000412154402.00a63f00@127.0.0.1> from "Bob LeChevalier" at Apr 12, 0 03:48:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:33 -0400 (EDT) X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD:translating names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob LeChevalier scripsit: > I'm not sure I agree with this one, especially since in the case in point, > Russian phonotactics rules dictate a Lojbanizable form for the name, by > making voicing agree with the final consonant of the group. Actually, Ivan explained some years ago (don't have the archives handy) why /moskva/ doesn't violate Russian phonotactics rules in this case. It does break Lojban ones: names aren't allowed to break the fundamental phonotactics rules like forbidden clusters. They can begin with a forbidden initial cluster, though, as that is not considered a fundamental rule (more of an engineering tradeoff). -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org I am a member of a civilization. --David Brin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here Bunny Bunny... Check it Out http://click.egroups.com/1/3123/2/_/17627/_/955571134/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com