From sentto-44114-2368-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Apr 12 23:23:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 15805 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 23:23:58 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 23:23:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 919 invoked by uid 40001); 13 Apr 2000 00:25:00 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 916 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2000 00:25:00 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2000 00:25:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2368-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2000 00:24:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29908 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.65) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 41950 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 2000 00:24:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20000413002458.41949.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.41.247.39 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:24:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.39] To: lojban@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:24:58 PDT X-eGroups-From: "Jorge Llambias" From: "Jorge Llambias" Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD: connective order Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit la pycyn cusku di'e >Connectives (and quantifiers) expand in left to right order, so A a B C e >D >is >A C e D ija B C e D. >(Can this be altered by, for example using prefix forms? But that does, in >fact, put the the connective first, I suppose. I think it doesn't change anything. ga A gi B C e D should still expand as before. >Are there things like >parentheses for this? The only thing that occurs to me that could make a difference is {bo}. Maybe A abo B C e D does expand the other way? It's still dubious though, because {bo} already has another function, and it will conflict in more complex cases. >Does the difference between sumti connective and >various predicate connective make a difference?) Obviously selbri connectives should expand before trailing sumti, but I don't know what happens with the sumti in front of the selbri. They probably should expand first. This may cause conflict with negation though, let's see: ko'a e ko'e na broda gi'a brode Is that: ko'a na broda gi'a brode ija ko'a na broda gi'a brode where {e} went to {ija} because of the negation, or is it something else? co'o mi'e xorxes ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.6 Million Digital Images! Download one Today from Corbis.com http://click.egroups.com/1/3356/2/_/17627/_/955585499/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com