From sentto-44114-2398-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Apr 15 08:01:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 19568 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 08:01:42 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 08:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7327 invoked by uid 40001); 15 Apr 2000 09:02:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 7324 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 09:02:55 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 09:02:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2398-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2000 09:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18356 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 09:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Apr 2000 09:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo16.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 09:02:52 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id h.db.2e34382 (3847) for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: lojban@onelist.com X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:02:43 EDT X-eGroups-From: Pycyn@aol.com From: pycyn@aol.com Subject: [lojban] RECORD: abstractions from names. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The property of being n is mela n-- and so reference to that property involve leka mela n or so. Strictly, me means "is on of the referents of'' ' ," and so differs from du in allowing plural descriptions to follow. But further, me is not a predicate, especially not a two-place one like du, but rather a way of converting a sumti into a predicate, so that me la n is a one-place predicate. Thus leka mela n makes sense a property in a way that leka du la n does not exactly. Being John Malkovitch is, presumably, le zu'u la djan malkovitc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High rates giving you headaches? The 0% APR Introductory Rate from Capital One. 9.9% Fixed thereafter! http://click.egroups.com/1/3010/2/_/17627/_/955789373/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com