From sentto-44114-2407-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Apr 15 23:18:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 20451 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 23:18:35 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 23:18:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28421 invoked by uid 40001); 16 Apr 2000 00:19:51 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 28418 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2000 00:19:50 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 2000 00:19:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2407-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2000 00:19:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13268 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2000 00:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Apr 2000 00:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2000 00:19:37 -0000 Received: from m13-mp1-cvx1c.gui.ntl.com ([62.252.12.13] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12gcf0-0000te-00 for lojban@onelist.com; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:11:35 +0100 To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8a.26ab07a.2626e67f@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:19:51 +0100 X-eGroups-From: "And Rosta" From: "And Rosta" Subject: RE: [lojban] RECORD:za'o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pycyn: > What is gone beyond is anything that would be expected to end what in fact > continues. In processes, this is most naturally the completion of the > product, but destroying the machinery, for example, also will do. For states > and activities (I don't think achievements can go on overtime since they > don't go on at all), If they don't go on at all, then that's only by definitional fiat. Most achievements (e.g. a train crossing a border) have or lack duration according to how magnified one's view of it is. My personal favourite za'o/superfective examplar involves in fact "become full", as with a suitcase that becomes full but continues to be stuffed beyond this point. --And. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. http://click.egroups.com/1/3012/2/_/17627/_/955844378/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com