From sentto-44114-2388-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Apr 14 21:36:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 18935 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2000 21:35:59 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 2000 21:35:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21372 invoked by uid 40001); 14 Apr 2000 22:37:10 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 21369 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2000 22:37:10 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 2000 22:37:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2388-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2000 22:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27893 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2000 22:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Apr 2000 22:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO latimer.mail.easynet.net) (195.40.1.40) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Apr 2000 22:37:08 -0000 Received: from rrbcurnow.freeuk.com (tnt-16-85.easynet.co.uk [212.134.28.85]) by latimer.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152BF537B3 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:37:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=richard) by rrbcurnow.freeuk.com with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 12gEdH-00002x-00 for lojban@onelist.com; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:32:11 +0100 To: Lojban List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:32:10 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-From: Richard Curnow From: Richard Curnow Reply-To: "Richard P. Curnow" Subject: [lojban] Interaction of SE and NAhE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit coi rodo I'm considering the interaction of SE and NAhE. The following examples and my guesses at the English equivalents show what I mean. mi se klama (I am a destination) mi na'e klama (I am other than a go-er) mi na'e se klama (I am other than a destination) mi se na'e klama (I am the destination of other than a go-er) mi se na'e te klama (I am the destination of other than an origin) Thinking about this problem, I've concluded that if mi broda ijo mi na'e brode then (broda) and (na'e brode) are constrained to have the same place structure. In examples like the more complicated ones above, I think na'e means 'other than' the x1 meaning of whatever's to the right of it. If a SE occurs to the left of na'e, it exchanges the scalar-negated place into one of the x2-xn positions, as in the final example. li xo cu jei drani co'o mi'e ritcyd. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard P. Curnow rpc@myself.com Weston-super-Mare Network time sync for Linux/Solaris/Dial-up at United Kingdom http://www.rrbcurnow.freeuk.com/chrony/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups + great entertaining = An Unforgettable Easter Click Below to see how http://click.egroups.com/1/3124/2/_/17627/_/955751829/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com