From sentto-44114-2363-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Apr 12 18:37:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 15438 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 18:37:22 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 18:37:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19661 invoked by uid 40001); 12 Apr 2000 19:38:23 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 19658 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 19:38:23 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 19:38:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2363-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 12 Apr 2000 19:38:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 31203 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2000 19:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 12 Apr 2000 19:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (205.252.14.63) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Apr 2000 19:38:04 -0000 Received: from bob (ppp23.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.23]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17766 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000412153848.00a5ca00@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: lojban@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <5a.3bab202.2625fb78@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:41:46 -0400 X-eGroups-From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD:translating names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 12:16 PM 04/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: >In English, last names are often transparent, though >not often applicable any more; first names are usually opaque -- in English, >however transparent they may be in, say, Hebrew. This seems to be pretty >generally the case in European languages; most other places I know about seem >to have meaningful names throughout and even some drive toward applicablity >(at least as a wish) for the part that is conventional (the individual name, >as opposed to the inherited one). Note that my daughter's middle name was chosen in part because it is transparent and applicable in Lojban, though opaque in English and Russian (la ka-trina); this is nice since her fist name gets mangled by the "la" rule - la .andjelys.) lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org (newly updated!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Win $1000 this Friday! http://click.egroups.com/1/2860/2/_/17627/_/955568288/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com