From sentto-44114-2755-958679903-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu May 18 19:57:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 10795 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 19:57:37 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 18 May 2000 19:57:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24769 invoked by uid 40001); 18 May 2000 19:58:26 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 24766 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 19:58:25 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 18 May 2000 19:58:25 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2755-958679903-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2000 19:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 691 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy.cais.net) (205.252.14.63) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 May 2000 19:58:22 -0000 Received: from bob ([209.8.89.67]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11755 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 15:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000518154817.00ac0420@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <94.4835de0.265509c6@aol.com> From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:00:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] RECORD: Shqip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 04:54 AM 05/18/2000 -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >Lojban is not suitable for representing Vulcan because >1. it is too obviously terrestrial (evolved in the wrong ocean) So is Klingon. But that didn't stop it. >2. it is not logical in the appropriate sense (too emotional for starters) That Lojban can be used for emotional expression does not mean that it has to be. More properly, Vulcan would be a subset of Lojban (perhaps the Vulcan we would hear on teh set is degraded Lojban = the attitudinals having been evolved out of the language (or more likely mutated into non-emotional but similar meanings). >3. Paramount is not amenable. No one knows this. The subject has never been raised to my knowledge. We can presume that they would be less interested than they were in Okrand's work simply because of the control issue. They also do not need a fully developed language like Lojban - just enough for verisimilitude. Most importantly, I think you left off the points that several Lojbanists do not favor the idea of trying to equate Vulcan and Lojban. I think several reasons were cited in the discussion by different people. PS, why is your subject seeming to refer to Albania when you talk about Vulcan? %^) lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/958679903/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com