From pycyn@aol.com Mon May 15 08:27:37 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18677 invoked from network); 15 May 2000 15:27:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 May 2000 15:27:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r17.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.71) by mta3 with SMTP; 15 May 2000 15:27:34 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id a.99.4d011f7 (3995) for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 11:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <99.4d011f7.2651715c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 11:27:24 EDT Subject: RECORD: another negative To: lojban@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 33 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 2737 {na} is a wide-scope negative, that is, its scope is the entire bridi in which it occurs, regardless of where it occurs in that bridi. And wide-scope includes also the prenex. Thus {da na broda} = {na da broda}= {da broda na}={na su'o da zo'u da broda}. For a negation whose place makes a difference, use {naku. So the above = {naku su'o da zo'u da broda}={ro da zo'u naku da broda}= {ro da naku broda}