Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 11606 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:03 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 17622 invoked by uid 40001); 19 May 2000 08:54:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 17619 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:54 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2760-958726493-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2000 08:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31307 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 May 2000 08:54:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo20.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.10) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:53 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id a.b4.57e5ab0 (4587) for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:46 EDT Subject: [lojban] RECORD: abstractions from names. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 999 Lines: 18 The property of being n is mela n-- and so reference to that property involve leka mela n or so. Strictly, me means "is one of the referents of'' ' ," and so differs from du in allowing plural descriptions to follow. But further, me is not a predicate, especially not a two-place one like du, but rather a way of converting a sumti into a predicate, so that me la n is a one-place predicate. Thus leka mela n makes sense as a property in a way that leka du la n does not exactly. Being John Malkovitch is, presumably, le zu'o me la djan malkovitc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/958726493/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com