Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 11612 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:10 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17634 invoked by uid 40001); 19 May 2000 08:55:02 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 17631 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:55:01 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:55:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2761-958726498-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 May 2000 08:54:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 31397 invoked from network); 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo21.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.65) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 May 2000 08:54:58 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id a.24.531b096 (4587) for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <24.531b096.26565b5c@aol.com> To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 04:54:52 EDT Subject: [lojban] RECORD: place structure. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 962 Lines: 17 The places of a gismu are {te gismu} and of a bridi {te bridi} What for a brivla? The places of a brivla are restricted to those essential to the meaning of the predicate, with those most likely to be dropped contextually placed later in left-to-right order. There are some other regulaities of order as well: agent tends to be first, sender precedes recipient, but destination precedes origin. In any case, it is a design principle of Loglan that memorizing even a completely arbitrary set of predicate places would be easier than learning bare predicates plus an indefinite set of preposition/cases and the ways that they might combine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: http://click.egroups.com/1/4052/3/_/17627/_/958726498/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com