From sentto-44114-2578-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Mon May 08 13:16:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 22264 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 13:16:57 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14889 invoked by uid 40001); 8 May 2000 13:17:59 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 14886 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 13:17:58 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:17:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2578-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 May 2000 13:17:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 15452 invoked from network); 8 May 2000 13:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 May 2000 13:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.camelot.de) (195.30.224.3) by mta3 with SMTP; 8 May 2000 13:17:52 -0000 Received: from robin.camelot.de (uucp@robin.camelot.de [195.30.224.3]) by mail.camelot.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21497; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oas.a2e.de (uucp@localhost) by robin.camelot.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id PAA21494; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost by wtao97 via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:13:48 +0000 (/etc/localtime) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1999-Nov-8) X-Sender: phm@wtao97.oas.a2e.de To: pycyn@aol.com Cc: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: PILCH Hartmut MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:13:47 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban / Most translated Web Page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As I just said about some other meshugash, this "logical" has nothing to do > with Lojban being a logical language, and so that line of chat is irrelevant > here. The pattern of relevance for the order of things is consistently > throughout the language "most used first" (or "least used last") so long as > it is consistent with the basic design. wrong. The structure of lojban tanru is like yyyy-mm-dd: central part in the end, delimiting peripherals prepended (or elided) as far as necessitated by the context. The ddmmyy structure comes from latin and other west-european languages, where the composites are built using the genitive (or English 'of'): central part in the beginning, delimiting peripherals appended (or elided). day 3 of month 12 of year 1999 This would perfectly translate into a Lojban tanru structure of 1999 12 3 which could of course, when needed, be transformed to 3 be 12 be 1999 -phm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/957791874/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com