From sentto-44114-3011-960722635-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sun Jun 11 11:21:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 14444 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 11:21:25 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 11:21:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 762 invoked by uid 40001); 11 Jun 2000 11:23:56 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 759 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 11:23:56 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3011-960722635-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 7330 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c3.egroups.com) (10.1.10.50) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.94] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2000 11:23:54 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Message-ID: <8hvss1+s5bd@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._T=FCting?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:23:45 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Some lujvo... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit la pycyn. pu cusku di'e > 6) ceirmamta or cesmamta (rather than: la ceirmam. :) - la mydanys. >> 6) 1 is a god mother/ holy mother of 2 -- probably not culturally neutral: >> maybe social mother or religious mother or education mother is more neutral >> -- every culture seems to have such a job. I did *not* want be *neutral*, but find an expression for 'Madonna' (God's mother). Is it the task of Lojban to be neutral at any cost? One could create a monstre lujvo with built-in definition (mother-of-god-Jesus-Christ-in-the-sense-of-Roman-Catholic- Greek-Orthodox .... religious-understanding), but that is not the goal. Shouldn't we try to get concise and unambiguous expressions, e.g. of Chinese type "shenfu" (Roman-Catholic missionary priest)? How about 'Rabbi' (ravvi) as /doictu/ (do ctucu)? Or / solcevni/solcei (solri cevni)? >7) zirblagrute >> 7) 1 is a bluish-purple fruit of species 2 (grape? plum? eggplant?) Shouldn't /zirbla/ be purplish-blue? Is eggplant a fruit or a vegetable? - It might be /grute/ anyway ;) > 8) zirblaborutytricu >> >> 8) 1 is a fruit tree of species 2 (as above -- scratch eggplant) Do eggplants grow on trees??? Can't imagine that /tricu/ comprises shrubs, bushes and that kind of smaller plants, especially those annual herbaceous plants (Germ.: Stauden). ki'e mi'e .aulun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960722610/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com