From sentto-44114-3028-960854790-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jun 13 00:03:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 16957 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 00:03:56 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:03:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2149 invoked by uid 40001); 13 Jun 2000 00:06:34 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 2146 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 00:06:34 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (207.138.41.138) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:06:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3028-960854790-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 00:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10218 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 00:06:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 00:06:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 00:06:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29806; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:35:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Robin Lee Powell Cc: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <200006122208.SAA17621@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lujvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > If I read "lo " where foo translates to "the mother of > God", I'm going to be pissed. It assumes that there is an objectively > observable God _and_ that said God has a mother _and_ that it's the God > you're talking about. Not at all. Since "lo " is the same as "da poi ", it simply means that the speaker is asserting that something is a mother of God along with whatever the bridi asserts. From your point of view, statements about the mother of God are like statements about purple rhinoceroses: uncontroversially false. But there is no *assumption* here. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org "You need a change: try Canada" "You need a change: try China" --fortune cookies opened by a couple that I know ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960854762/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com