From sentto-44114-2906-959930941-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Jun 02 07:27:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 494 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 07:27:11 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 07:27:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22153 invoked by uid 40001); 2 Jun 2000 07:29:02 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 22150 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 07:29:02 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 07:29:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2906-959930941-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 07:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21645 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 2 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17778 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (10.1.2.111) by iqg.egroups.com with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.64] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Message-ID: <8h7nns+8n5q@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <0006020023290M.00935@neofelis> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._T=FCting?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: rafsi - the Lakhota way? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- In lojban@egroups.com, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >Antivereinigenstaatenskonstitutionenspirituosenwarenhaendler. >=20 > Let's see, how do I say that in Lojban? >=20 > na'ekempavbivmoiga'imercmuflake'exalpixcanja - can someone improve this? >=20 > phma Wow, boy! What you, calling yourself a beginner, can do in Lojban - using a 'German' compound I hardly manage to get the sense=20 out! All those fancy compounds are *German* because their non-German inventors think about it to be German ;) - except those=20 un-famous 'Blitzkrieg' etc..=20 Although having a good feeling for German language, I never cared much for German grammar (it's far too boring): so I cannot give=20 you the rules for forming compounds. Just can tell you that it's pretty irregular. I guess one - at least myself - has to learn each=20 single compound whether there has to be a 'glue' inserted (genitiv s) or not. E.g., after words with more than one syllable very=20 often an s has to be attached: brot*zeit (bread-time=3Dsnack), but Fr=FChling*s*wind (spring-breeze/wind). Yet, this rule is not at=20 all strict: Leben*s*versicherung (life-insurance), but Unfall*versicherung (accident-insurance) etc. Here I give you a 'real existing' and famous German/Austrian fancy compound word - used just for fun: Donau*dampf*schiff* fahrt*s*gesellschaft*s*kapit=E4n ... (Danube-stea m-boat-travel-company-captain). Watch the 'glues'!=20 Up to last year (when an 'Orthographiereform' took place) the common word 'Schiffahrt' was not allowed with three f (Schifffahrt)=20 - now it is, but looking strange! I wished being able to form Lojban lujvo like you do! (Are there ethymological gismu charts? - for Mac users?) .aulun. Alfred *=AF=BFs http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de Traces of Butterflies' Dreams - ***/*=99 "Tieh Meng Hen" My Poetry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their=20 articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get=20 paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/959930934/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com