From sentto-44114-3055-960932764-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jun 13 21:43:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 18841 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:43:24 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:43:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 7982 invoked by uid 40001); 13 Jun 2000 21:46:06 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 7979 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:46:06 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:46:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3055-960932764-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 21:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 21929 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 21:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (207.252.3.72) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:46:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26392 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:46:02 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <200006132134.RAA18515@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: From: Invent Yourself MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lujvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > I think I maybe just misunderstand lo. To me, 'lo cevni' sounds like > the English phrase 'the One True God(s)', which has a _huge_ mess of > underlying assumptions, many of which ignore the beliefs of 2/3s or so > of the planet, at least, depending on which god you're reffering to. > > Any set of unexamined assumptions that denigrate that many people > offends me (a lot of the assumptions westerners make about fat people > and health issues related to that, for example), but the fact that it's > about religion may make it more touchy. Or maybe it's just because > no-one ever stopped me in the street to scream "All fat people are going > to die of heart attacks!", whereas having strangers yell at me that > "Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the light!"" has happened so > often as to be almost commonplace. If a Christian really believes there is only one True God, it behooves them to use "lo" to indicate their absolute belief. It is not a relative, questionable point of debate for them. The fact that you don't happen to agree is irrelevant to them. If we restrict lo for points which are never debated then lo can never be used, since a trivial nonexistence argument can be raised for anything (although I will not participate in a discussion fleshing this out). ----- In the Linux world, all of the major distributions have turned into companies. How much revenue would Red Hat generate if their product was flawless? How much support would they sell? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @Backup- Protect and Access your data any time, any where on the net. Try @Backup FREE and recieve 300 points from mypoints.com Install now: http://click.egroups.com/1/5467/3/_/17627/_/960932734/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com