From sentto-44114-3067-960995117-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Jun 14 15:02:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 20141 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 15:02:37 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 15:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8499 invoked by uid 40001); 14 Jun 2000 15:05:22 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 8496 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 15:05:22 -0000 Received: from hn.egroups.com (208.50.144.84) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 15:05:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3067-960995117-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2000 15:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 7813 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 15:05:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jun 2000 15:05:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 15:05:15 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id a.65.599b604 (3937) for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <65.599b604.2678f923@aol.com> To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:05:07 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: le/lei/la/lai ... Brutus & the rest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 00-06-13 17:27:31 EDT, aulun writes: << But it's wrong too saying: lei latmo prenu ... because it's pointing to the *set* of Romans (which is not the culprit!) and leaving out Brutus/Pilatus (which - assuming here for this example - *are* the culprits). >> {lei} etc. point not to the *set* of Roman people -- which,as you note, is incapable of doing much of anything -- but to the *mass* of Roman people, a very different (and considerably less well-defined) object. It does manage to do just about anyhting that its "members" do and to cumulate their actions into bigger ones, while retaining some sense of the different involvements. (Sets are {le'i} etc.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960995086/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com