From sentto-44114-3121-961190169-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Jun 16 21:13:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 23817 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 21:13:17 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 21:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 25611 invoked by uid 40001); 16 Jun 2000 21:16:12 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 25608 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 21:16:12 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 21:16:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3121-961190169-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2000 21:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3081 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 21:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jun 2000 21:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2000 21:16:08 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id a.6b.5b27a59 (3948) for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6b.5b27a59.267bf311@aol.com> To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:16:01 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Mi za'o klama Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 00-06-16 16:31:43 EDT, pier writes: <<>goes on to Pineville though aiming at Charlotte -- as {mi klama la >painvil la ralix za'o la charlyt} No, that means "I go from Raleigh to Pineville when Charlotte has outlived its usefulness." >> RECORD:za'o What is gone beyond is anything that would be expected to end what in fact continues. In processes, this is most naturally the completion of the product, but destroying the machinery, for example, also will do. For states and activities (I don't think achievements can go on overtime since they don't go on at all), anything will do: presumed interruptions, length of time, ... *The most useful task for za'o as a sumti tag is, therefore, to indicate the obstacle overcome (or ignored) in the ongoing.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AUTO & HOME INSURANCE -- LOWEST RATES & BEST COVERAGE. Get dozens of the best agents competing for your business with our new FREE service. http://click.egroups.com/1/5568/3/_/17627/_/961190133/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com