From sentto-44114-3311-962265406-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu Jun 29 08:08:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 4898 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 08:08:25 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 08:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28950 invoked by uid 40001); 29 Jun 2000 08:03:02 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 28947 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 08:03:02 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 08:03:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3311-962265406-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2000 07:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22643 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 07:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Jun 2000 07:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.135) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 07:56:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.126] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2000 07:56:43 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Message-ID: <8jevfl+42e0@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3959B041.792C@math.bas.bg> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:56:37 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: PLEA: Chinese names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- In lojban@egroups.com, Ivan A Derzhanski wrote: > Using /r/ doesn't seem to be a good idea, because syllabic > (retroflex) /r/ does exist in Mandarin -- _shi_ and _shir_ > are different syllables (and _shi_ is different from _she_, > although _shir_ and _sher_ sound the same). Would you please give some examples for the phonem contrast of _shi_ and _shir_ (as I can't imagine! - it's both: /cr/)? > (and _shi_ is different from _she_ that's right, but: /cr/ and /cy/ > although _shir_ and _sher_ sound the same) no - _shir_ doesn't seem to exist (it's py: shi /cr/); sher is py: she-er /cy,r/ (/cy/+/yr/) .aulun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High long distance bills are HISTORY! Join beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/4164/4/_/17627/_/962265407/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com