From sentto-44114-2897-959875800-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu Jun 01 16:08:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 32177 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 16:08:16 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 16:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23156 invoked by uid 40001); 1 Jun 2000 16:10:05 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23153 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 16:10:05 -0000 Received: from ml.egroups.com (208.50.144.77) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 16:10:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-2897-959875800-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2000 17:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29545 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@skunk.reutershealth.com [204.243.9.153]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07419; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: cowan@mail.reutershealth.com Message-ID: <39368AAF.3546FB45@reutershealth.com> Organization: Reuters Health Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en To: "James F. Carter" , "lojban@onelist.com" References: From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:09:19 -0400 Subject: [lojban] CHAT: American dialects (was: Chinese names) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "James F. Carter" wrote: > When I attended grad school at the State University of New York at Stony > Brook, there was a guy in the dorm who sounded perfectly normal, not a > trace of New Yorkish accent. It happens; I know people born and bred in Manhattan who pronounce their "r"s. > I think pervasive exposure of people, particularly children, to > (American) English "stage speech" heard on TV and radio is totally > homogenizing USA regional dialects, and I imagine something similar is > happening in every coherent broadcast market. Nobody speaks proper New > Yorkish any more. Naah. My daughter, born in the Bronx and brought up in Manhattan, alternates between New York dialect and AAVE, with few traces of my outside-of-NYC accent or her mother's modified North Carolina. It's just that you live in California, which is the *basis* of American broadcast English. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/4634/3/_/17627/_/959875794/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com