From sentto-44114-3198-961711549-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu Jun 22 22:02:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 953 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 22:02:30 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 22:02:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 25013 invoked by uid 40001); 22 Jun 2000 22:05:51 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 25010 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 22:05:51 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 22:05:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3198-961711549-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Jun 2000 23:05:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7161 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2000 22:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jun 2000 22:05:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2000 22:05:47 -0000 Received: from bob (149.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.149]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MM5iJ26515 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:05:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lojbab@lojban.org) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000622180608.00b433a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 To: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:06:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] on Lojban pronunciation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 02:04 PM 06/22/2000 -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > < speaking people includes 'rough' sounds like that /x/ > Don't they show kind of a masochist trait? ;-) >> > >No, just a practical one (disguised, as often with JCB, as an empirical >discovery). We needed another sound, we were misrepresenting a lot of >language contributions by lacking an /h/-ish sound, we needed a sound that >would be distinct in usual channels (as ordinary /h/ is not) and, lo, we >found that most languages had a /x/ but not an actual /h/. And so, /x/ it >was. -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High long distance bills are HISTORY! Join beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/4164/4/_/17627/_/961711550/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com