From sentto-44114-3005-960668979-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Jun 10 20:27:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 13542 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 20:27:15 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 20:27:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 8517 invoked by uid 40001); 10 Jun 2000 20:29:44 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 8514 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 20:29:44 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 20:29:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3005-960668979-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2000 20:29:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 18685 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2000 20:29:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2000 20:29:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2000 20:29:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 73202 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2000 20:29:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000610202938.73201.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.42.154.238 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:29:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.154.238] To: lojban@egroups.com From: "Jorge Llambias" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:29:38 PDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban can help? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit la pycyn cusku di'e >I'm not sure whether noroi is strictly negative and whether, if it is, >roda >is in its scope (the book doesn't take it up at the relevant point. I always took the roi's as just another quantified variable. It would be nice to have a definite scope convention, all tenses can be so affected really. >If the >answer to both is "yes," >then just da or (folksy style) noda -- or prenex. Is folksy style good Lojban? Double negatives are folksy in English but standard in Spanish. In Lojban they are supposed to cancel out, so {noroi... noda} should mean {roroi ... su'oda}. >But the point is that lb >can say this very easily. Yes, almost as easily as English... :) co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960668955/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com