From sentto-44114-3272-962122269-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jun 27 16:10:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 2496 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 16:10:12 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 16:10:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 17430 invoked by uid 40001); 27 Jun 2000 16:11:22 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 17426 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 16:11:22 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 16:11:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3272-962122269-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2000 16:11:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26760 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 15:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Jun 2000 15:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 15:03:44 -0000 Received: from BestATN@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id a.7f.640b428 (4424) for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7f.640b428.2689830e@aol.com> To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 109 From: BestATN@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:09:50 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest Number 497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All this talk about bottles not being bottles because they don't contain anything seem vacuous to me (pun intended). A bottle always contains something, even if that something is only a vacuum, indeed empty space. Nothing in the definition says what the contents have to be. So it's true that an "empty" bottle can be referred to in > ta botpi < or > ta ca botpi < or even the sentence > ta caca'oca'a botpi < . A bottle is a bottle, regardless of its contents. Steven Lytle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere! Conference in the whole family on the same call. Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below. http://click.egroups.com/1/5476/4/_/17627/_/962122269/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com