From sentto-44114-3049-960930914-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jun 13 21:12:34 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 18762 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:12:33 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:12:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 6301 invoked by uid 40001); 13 Jun 2000 21:15:15 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 6298 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:15:15 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:15:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3049-960930914-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 13 Jun 2000 21:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 31638 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2000 21:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2000 21:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r14.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.68) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2000 21:15:08 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id a.9e.5be0cd1 (9251) for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9e.5be0cd1.2677fe43@aol.com> To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:14:43 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lujvo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 00-06-13 16:28:02 EDT, robin writes: << Note that the specific vector of offense for me would be if someone used a generic expression like that ("one or more mothers of one or more gods") to refer specifically to Christianity and its mythology. The all-too-common assumption by Christians that their religion is the only relevant one pisses me off. >> Is this just a contextual thing, that you only come in contact with Christians, or does the same claim by virtually every other religious group really leave you unannoyed? Again, it is not an assumption but a carefully defended claim (not necessarily, for all of that, a true one, mind you) and it is not that their religion is the only *relevant,* but that it is the only *true* one. Other living religions are relevant, because they systematically prevent their followers from finding the truth and thus they continue the reign of evil in the world. (This particular form happens to come from Islam, by the way.) What is true of Christianity, in the US at least, is that just about everybody above the age of five knows a little bit about it and thus its mythology (which is most of what is known) can be assumed as a common reference point for all sorts of other things -- humor, marketing, politics (if that is different), what have you. Interestingly, Judaism seems to function almost as well in the realms of (slightly) higher culture -- urbane urban, say. In both cases, the cultural coin is scarcely fair to the religion as a whole or even any subgroup within it, but it often is the extent of a person's knowledgte of religion at all (even if they profess to belong to a more precisely defined group). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960930884/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com