From sentto-44114-3061-960950722-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Jun 14 02:45:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 19263 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 02:45:40 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 02:45:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 17970 invoked by uid 40001); 14 Jun 2000 02:48:23 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 17967 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 02:48:21 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 02:48:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3061-960950722-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2000 02:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 9195 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2000 02:45:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jun 2000 02:45:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.80) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2000 02:45:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 37353 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 02:45:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614024521.37352.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.42.152.95 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:45:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.152.95] To: lojban@egroups.com From: "Jorge Llambias" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:45:21 PDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban & poetry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is very hard to translate poetry, so much rests on sounds and resonances more than in the actual meanings of the words, and even though this poem doesn't have rhyme it does have its rhythm. Here's my attempt in Lojban: xirli'u selsanga i la kOrdobas zo'u darnu o'enai i xekri xirma i barda lunra i daskyne'i ctilygrute i i'a lei dargu mi slabu i ku'i na tolcliva la kOrdobas i pa'o le foldi e le brife i xekri xirma i xunre lunra i la nunmro mi ca catlu to'o lei galdi'u pe la kOrdobas i oi lo mutce clani dargu i oi doi pemi virnu xirma i oi la nunmro mi ba penmi pu le nu tolcliva la kOrdobas i la kOrdobas zo'u darno o'enai > >ki'e mi ba ckire do lenu mi se sidju te lenu fanva le pemci (I'm not >sure if this is okay!) Almost: Use {fi} instead of {te}, and you need to close {ki'e}, for example {ki'e do'u}, or else it absorbs {mi} and you are thanking yourself. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WRITERS WANTED! Themestream allows ALL writers to publish their articles on the Web, reach thousands of interested readers, and get paid in cash for their work. Click below: http://click.egroups.com/1/3840/3/_/17627/_/960950692/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com