From sentto-44114-3275-962126696-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jun 27 17:24:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 2582 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 17:24:18 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 17:24:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19928 invoked by uid 40001); 27 Jun 2000 17:25:29 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 19925 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 17:25:28 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 17:25:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3275-962126696-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2000 17:25:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13539 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 15:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Jun 2000 15:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.146) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 15:38:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout1-1.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18568 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aylee.twcny.rr.com ([24.92.245.52]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:19:41 -0400 Received: from rob by aylee.twcny.rr.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 136moV-0003cJ-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:17:31 -0400 To: lojban@eGroups.com Message-ID: <20000627001731.B12814@twcny.rr.com> References: <0006261922130D.01794@neofelis> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from grey.havens@earthling.net on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 03:23:16AM +0200 X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: rob@twcny.rr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:17:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Names of characters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 03:23:16AM +0200, Elrond wrote: > > > " - lubu > won't "lubu" be parsed as "lu bu" (and probably make the following > ungrammatical) ? > The jbofi'e goes crazy with the even bridi "zo lubu cu valsi". I thought the reference grammar said that 'bu' overrides just about everything. If not, that'd totally ruin my concept of 'zoibu'. > > ( - tobu > > ) - toibu > same as "lubu" ? > > > @ - abubu (?) > I never thought that "@" had anything to do with "a"... At least not in > the phonological sense... > I may be wrong, but isn't there more obvious meaning of the "@" that could > be used for its name ? Well, it basically stands for the English word 'at'. This doesn't make the translation to Lojban well, because it can represent location (like in an e-mail address) or a property of some objects (like the price 'each' of something: 4 apples @ 25 cents each). Anyway, I get the feeling that the symbol came about because of the 'a' in 'at'. -- Rob Speer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whassuuup?! http://click.egroups.com/1/5996/4/_/17627/_/962126696/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com