From sentto-44114-3308-962252347-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Thu Jun 29 04:17:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 4716 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 04:17:55 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 04:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 23314 invoked by uid 40001); 29 Jun 2000 04:19:11 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 23311 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 04:19:10 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 04:19:10 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3308-962252347-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2000 04:19:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5004 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 04:19:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Jun 2000 04:19:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.170) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 04:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 39747 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 2000 04:19:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000629041906.39746.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.41.247.51 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:19:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.51] To: lojban@egroups.com From: "Jorge Llambias" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:19:06 PDT Subject: RE: [lojban] Complements and adjuncts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit la kolin cusku di'e >So you're arguing that all expressed terbri are complements (as well as >omitted terbri of the brivla and sumti omitted after sumti tcita?) That >would fit with their free ordering. Yes, I think that's what I'm saying. >How then would we express adjuncts? By attaching them to the whole bridi >(following vau for example)? I don't think there can be adjuncts as such, meaning some way to attach a BAI directly to the bridi such that when you say {BAI noda} you are not negating the whole predicate. It is I think fundamental to Lojban that all quantified variables can go straight to the prenex in their order of appearance. There are of course ways to express adjunctive notions, for example by using a separate bridi or by making a subordinate bridi out of the main one. co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Call Your eGroup and Save With beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/5072/4/_/17627/_/962252347/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com