From sentto-44114-3471-963004353-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Fri Jul 07 21:10:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 16377 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 21:10:44 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 21:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2209 invoked by uid 40001); 7 Jul 2000 21:12:38 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 2206 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 21:12:38 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 21:12:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3471-963004353-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2000 22:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22468 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 21:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Jul 2000 21:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 21:12:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04160; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:49:14 -0400 (EDT) To: And Rosta Cc: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: [lojban] I don't think so, il ne faut pas, etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, And Rosta wrote: > [I]t was formerly much debated whether this amounts to a rule of semantically > vacuous negative raising or whether it can all be explained by pragmatics > (i.e. cooperative addressee not insisting on taking addresser's words too > literally). Of course, those of us who don't insist on making that pernicious distinction don't have a problem with it. *smirk* -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit" To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com