From sentto-44114-3526-963183474-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sun Jul 09 22:55:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 19956 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2000 22:55:52 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 2000 22:55:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 26905 invoked by uid 40001); 9 Jul 2000 22:57:56 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 26902 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2000 22:57:56 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 2000 22:57:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3526-963183474-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2000 22:57:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23608 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2000 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Jul 2000 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wtao97.oas.a2e.de) (62.154.243.66) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2000 22:57:52 -0000 Received: from localhost by wtao97.oas.a2e.de via sendmail with esmtp id for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:54:41 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 2000-Mar-31) X-Sender: phm@wtao97.oas.a2e.de To: Invent Yourself Cc: Lojban List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: PILCH Hartmut MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 22:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Petition for a Software Patent Free Europe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > It is time to bring Lojban into the European patent reform discussion, as > > I am doing below. > > What can we do to help? for example - create a project "Lojban for the Patent System" that has more backing than just a few crazy individuals as those who wrote http://swpat.ffii.org/xatra/egp27de.html (English version will follow) http://swpat.ffii.org/xatra/lojban/ - place links to the above and to http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (16650 signatures by today) and preferably make http://petition.eurolinux.org/index.lb.html available. - create some sets of patent claims in Lojban as an exercise and show what ambiguities corresponding patent claims in various natlangs would contain and how a LL helps. [ When translating patent descriptions between Japanese and English I always found that this is a real problem and having them in a LL would help not only for auto-translatability but also for clarity. Patent claim sentences tend to become huge, and I know they would be short, elegant and fairly understandable in Lojban. That is because normal languages are not made for nested structures as are necessary in patent claims. ] - keep working on Lojban parsers / glossers / translators. - Talk to the EU Multilingual Information Society bureaucrats and get them to fund the "Lojban for the Patent System" project. (They are spending lots of money for quite useless proprietary translation software projects) -phm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old school buds here: http://click.egroups.com/1/5536/4/_/17627/_/963183474/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com