From sentto-44114-3580-963318811-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jul 11 12:31:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 22799 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 12:31:23 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 12:31:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17574 invoked by uid 40001); 11 Jul 2000 12:33:33 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 17571 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 12:33:33 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:33 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3580-963318811-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 27739 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO locke.ccil.org) (192.190.237.102) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 12:33:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (cowan@localhost) by locke.ccil.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22793; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT) To: Jorge Llambias Cc: lojban@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <20000710233221.47624.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: "which?" (was: RE: [lojban] centripetality: subset vs component Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > >A: A certain cat leaves. > >B: A certain cat of what kind leaves? > >A: A certain cat of white colour leaves. > > > >-- what's wrong with that? > > Nothing, but they are not {le} statements. Actually, I think they are. "A certain" in English is a way of making +specific -definite sumti: I know what cat is meant (+specific), but you don't (-definite). In Lojban "le bi'unai mlatu". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org C'est la` pourtant que se livre le sens du dire, de ce que, s'y conjuguant le nyania qui bruit des sexes en compagnie, il supplee a ce qu'entre eux, de rapport nyait pas. -- Jacques Lacan, "L'Etourdit" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wish you had something rad to add to your email? We do at www.supersig.com. http://click.egroups.com/1/6807/4/_/17627/_/963318812/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com