From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Jul 31 12:43:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1311 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2000 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 31 Jul 2000 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta1 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2000 19:43:07 -0000 Received: from bob (59.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.59]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VJh6E96323 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:43:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lojbab@lojban.org) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000731153342.00ad2550@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:41:47 -0400 To: lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Fu'ivla of class MLONGENA In-Reply-To: <00073110585502.00899@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3767 At 10:49 AM 07/31/2000 -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >I propose a class of fu'ivla with the structure CCVC/CVCV where C/C is not an >initial consonant pair, none of the vowels is y, and the fifth letter is >not r. >The type of this class is {mlongena} "eggplant". Please let me know if the >conditions are insufficient or any is unnecessary to prevent misparsing. Just to forwarn you, regardless of the quality of the word, I have no effective means of picking Type 4 fu'ivla out of bulk text (mixed English and Lojban) in the manner that I have been using to accumulate words for possible inclusion in the dictionary. Thus, only if there is enough usage of your words that they are remembered by Lojbanists when it comes time to write dictionary entries, or there is careful documentation on your part when you actually use them in text (just making these kinds of words up doesn't count - unless they are actually *used* in Lojban text/speech, a fu'ivla is not Lojban IMHO), your borrowings will be quite transient. Type 3 borrowings, with the gismu prefix, tend to be pretty easy to spot, though we have had a variety of spellings of some words over the years (at least ten variations on a borrowing for Esperanto). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org