From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Jul 31 22:42:11 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5337 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2000 05:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Aug 2000 05:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-5.cais.net) (205.252.14.75) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 05:42:11 -0000 Received: from bob (dynamic216.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.216]) by stmpy-5.cais.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e715g3V52145; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 01:42:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lojbab@lojban.org) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000801012818.00b8b8a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:40:50 -0400 To: Pierre Abbat , lojban@egroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Fu'ivla of class MLONGENA In-Reply-To: <00073117553904.00899@neofelis> References: <4.2.2.20000731153342.00ad2550@127.0.0.1> <4.2.2.20000731153342.00ad2550@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3780 At 05:50 PM 07/31/2000 -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >Is there a place where I can find fu'ivla that have been previously used, and >where Lojbanists can add them? A list of all known fu'ivla that I found in text through last December can be found in the dictionary/working directory of www.lojban.org along with lists of all the other words my semi-automated processing was able to pick up. They don't have definitions, only frequency counts. There is no mechanism for collecting words, except that every year or two I will do a similar run on Lojban List traffic, and manually weed out English words and other things that aren't obviously Lojban words (I might never recognize an "mlongena" word, so you can't count on them clearing my filtering, though I guess I could look for that particular pattern of consonants and vowels.) To get in the dictionary, a fu'ivla will need to have some minimum frequency or be otherwise interesting, and of course it will need a definition/place structure (which few people have been volunteering to work on for the thousands of words already in the language). If someone wanted to set up a system for collecting word proposals and place structures on a Web page somewhere, it is possible that we could add it to the Lojban web site (I don't know what kinds of scripting we can do on our website, though, so this might have to remain located somewhere else). People can also upload word proposals in files onto the Lojban List file server connected with egroups, but thus far I am not sure whether anyone even looks at those files (or how one tells of people are looking at them). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org