From iad@MATH.BAS.BG Mon Jul 03 01:19:04 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1175 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 08:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jul 2000 08:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO argo.bas.bg) (195.96.224.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 08:19:01 -0000 Received: from banmatpc.math.bas.bg (root@banmatpc.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.2]) by argo.bas.bg (8.11.0.Beta1/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id e638InO02987 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:18:58 +0300 Received: from iad.math.bas.bg (iad.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.88]) by banmatpc.math.bas.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04582 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:18:47 +0300 Message-ID: <39604CA2.3DA2@math.bas.bg> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:19:46 +0300 Reply-To: iad@math.bas.bg Organization: Institute for Mathematics and Computer Science X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Lojban List Subject: Re: [lojban] Opposite of za'o References: <20000701035334.26730.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ivan A Derzhanski X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3381 The linguistic literature on `still', `already' and friends is not exactly vast, perhaps, but there are some things that people might want to look at. A couple of illuminating papers: Traugott, Elizabeth Closs & John Waterhouse (1969). `"Already" and "Yet": a Suppletive Set of Aspect-Markers?'. _Journal of Linguistics_ 5.2:193-320. van der Auwera, Johan (1993). `"Already" and "Still": Beyond Duality'. _Linguistics and Philosophy_ 16.6:613-653. Stuff on: * to what extent the expressions in question are similar to aspect markers (ie ZAhO-like) and how and why they are not (implying that we can't really use ZAhO to translate them); * the `funniness' of `little words' such as _yet_; * where `finally' fits in the quadrangle (?) `still -- already -- not yet -- no longer'; * how other languages differ from English (eg _already_ and _finally_ are incompatible in English, but their closest counterparts in many other languages are not). --Ivan