From sentto-44114-3415-962829114-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Wed Jul 05 20:30:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 12939 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2000 20:30:10 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 5 Jul 2000 20:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29035 invoked by uid 40001); 5 Jul 2000 20:31:56 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 29032 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2000 20:31:56 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.99.197) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 5 Jul 2000 20:31:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3415-962829114-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2000 20:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20205 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2000 20:30:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 5 Jul 2000 20:30:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hn.egroups.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2000 20:30:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.63] by hn.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2000 20:30:50 -0000 To: lojban@egroups.com Message-ID: <8k05qc+k2a5@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <3961FCAC.800DAC2E@math.bas.bg> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Alfred_W._Tueting_(T=FCting)?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:29:00 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Englishistic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- In lojban@egroups.com, Ivan A Derzhanski wrote: > Robin Turner wrote: > > "Alfred W. Tueting (T=FCting)" wrote: > > > As far I can see, "yet/still/already etc." are quite the same > > > in most European languages: also "no longer" (=3Dnot more) seems > > > equivalent - "nicht mehr", "non ... plus", "non ... piu`", > > > "nu mai": Yet Hungarian is different: m=E1r (=3Dalready), > > > [...] and *m=E1r nem=3Dno longer*(!) >=20 > So what's different about that? It's the same as Spanish (_ya no_), > not to mention the Slavic languages. So what's *not* different about the languages mentioned: would you give some examples of "already not" for "no longer" e.g. in=20=20 Slavic languages (could Hungarian be influenced by the Slavic neighbourhood? What's about that in Finland - vagy a rokonaikn=E1l az=20 Esztekn=E9l?) Altaic, Uralic - Finno-Ugric ... (atya/ata, alma/alma, tenger/deniz; b=E1tor/baatar; k=E9z/k=E4si, v=E9r/v=E4ri, egy/=FCksi, kett=F6/kaksi,=20 harom/kolmen ... ) .aulun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where do sports heroes like Derek Jeter, Mia Hamm, Vince Carter and Peyton Manning hang out? Where else? Click now and find =91em all here! http://click.egroups.com/1/6211/4/_/17627/_/962829114/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com