From sentto-44114-3338-962459958-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Sat Jul 01 14:04:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 7592 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2000 14:04:34 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 1 Jul 2000 14:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27971 invoked by uid 40001); 1 Jul 2000 13:59:20 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 27968 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2000 13:59:20 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 1 Jul 2000 13:59:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3338-962459958-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2000 14:59:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 16505 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2000 13:59:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jul 2000 13:59:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r11.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.65) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Jul 2000 13:59:17 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id a.f2.7ec6f1 (4556) for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: lojban@egroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 From: pycyn@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:59:14 EDT Subject: [lojban] RE: opposite of za'o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just noticed what an odd word "opposite" is in this context. I took pier to be asking for one thing, and now several others have come to light. {za'o} means "continuing beyond a natural end-point" (roughly -- we'll ignore the fine points here). I took pier to be asking after "stops before a natural end point," which looks like {co'u} to me. BUT some other notions have come up, the mirror images of these, it seems -- or these of the complementary event? "going before the natural starting point" (stop not going before the natural ending point of not going?) "start well after the natural starting point" ("not going at the natural starting point" =? keeps on not going after natural time to go?) All of these seem to get involved in the "still" "already" "yet" complexes. Comments eagerly sought. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High long distance bills are HISTORY! Join beMANY! http://click.egroups.com/1/4164/4/_/17627/_/962459958/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com