From sentto-44114-3568-963274553-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Tue Jul 11 00:13:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 21965 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 00:13:46 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 00:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 2728 invoked by uid 40001); 11 Jul 2000 00:15:55 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 2725 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 00:15:54 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (208.50.144.80) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 00:15:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3568-963274553-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2000 00:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1137 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 00:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Jul 2000 00:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.89) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 00:15:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 46573 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2000 00:15:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000711001552.46571.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 200.42.154.98 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:15:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [200.42.154.98] To: lojban@egroups.com From: "Jorge Llambias" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:15:52 PDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Tashunkekokipapi - Man-afraid-of his-horses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit la xod cusku di'e >This is mapping culturally-laden concepts from English into Lojban, >instead of exploring reality from a Lojbanic worldview. Why bother with >Lojban if it's used as a concept-for-concept cipher of English? Indeed I wouldn't bother if Lojban were so used. I don't think that is what we're doing by trying to find how to express in Lojban what English expresses with "even". Do you think it is a pointless exercise? How would you translate the name "Man-They-Fear-Even-His-Horses". co'o mi'e xorxes ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wish you had something rad to add to your email? We do at www.supersig.com. http://click.egroups.com/1/6807/4/_/17627/_/963274553/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com