From sentto-44114-3387-962636946-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Mon Jul 03 15:07:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: shoulson-kli@meson.org Received: (qmail 10035 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 15:07:32 -0000 Received: from zash.lupine.org (205.186.156.18) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 15:07:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 22204 invoked by uid 40001); 3 Jul 2000 15:09:08 -0000 Delivered-To: kli-mark@kli.org Received: (qmail 22201 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 15:09:08 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by zash.lupine.org with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 15:09:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-3387-962636946-mark=kli.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2000 15:09:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25013 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 15:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Jul 2000 15:08:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO argo.bas.bg) (195.96.224.7) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 15:08:56 -0000 Received: from banmatpc.math.bas.bg (root@banmatpc.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.2]) by argo.bas.bg (8.11.0.Beta1/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id e63F8rO17456 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:08:53 +0300 Received: from iad.math.bas.bg (iad.math.bas.bg [195.96.243.88]) by banmatpc.math.bas.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA07395 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 18:08:53 +0300 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3960984E.AE29FF55@math.bas.bg> X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: lojban@egroups.com References: <20000701195854.24067.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Ivan A Derzhanski MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@egroups.com; contact lojban-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:42:38 +0300 Subject: Re: [lojban] bacrynandu drata drata drata Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lojban is a great language for tongue-twisters, but ... michael helsem wrote: > tisna fala tsani le cnita tsina lo tinci tinsa [...] > le dzena tsani cu zdile stali ... these don't twist my tongue as much as the others that have been posted -- I pronounce {ts}, {tc}, {dz} and {dj} as affricates, which I don't perceive as closely related to the dental stops or the homorganic fricatives, so what it takes to make a tongue-twister (many occurrences of the same sounds in different combinations) is just not there. Is that an effect of having a Slavic mouth, I wonder? --Ivan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. http://click.egroups.com/1/6137/4/_/17627/_/962636946/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com