From richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com Tue Aug 01 14:38:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2154 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2000 21:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Aug 2000 21:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scrabble.freeuk.net) (212.126.144.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2000 21:38:08 -0000 Received: from du-010-0081.freeuk.com ([212.126.153.81] helo=rrbcurnow.freeuk.com ident=root) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Jjji-0006nm-00 for lojban@egroups.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 22:38:07 +0100 Received: from richard by rrbcurnow.freeuk.com with local (Exim 2.02 #2) id 13Jjdn-000046-00 for lojban@egroups.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:31:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:31:59 +0100 To: "lojban@onelist.com" Subject: Re: [lojban] slinku'i test Message-ID: <20000801223159.B113@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> Reply-To: Richard Curnow Mail-Followup-To: "lojban@onelist.com" References: <00073117325103.00899@neofelis> <39860E82.CBB4C26B@reutershealth.com> <00073123010604.17289@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i-nntp In-Reply-To: <00073123010604.17289@neofelis>; from phma@oltronics.net on Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:58:10PM -0400 From: Richard Curnow X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 3789 On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 10:58:10PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, John Cowan wrote: > >Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > >> Why is the slinku'i test called that, and what's a slinku'i? > > > >"Slinku'i" is a hypothetical fu'ivla that fails the slinku'i test, > >because "pa slinku'i" would be taken as the lujvo "pas+lin+ku'i". > >Neither the fu'ivla nor the lujvo has any other meaning. > >The name goes back to Loglan days. > > I ran jbofi'e on it and got robe-chain-caretaker. Chain-robe-caretaker It's fair to say that handling of fu'ivla is not a strong area of jbofi'e. As far as I can remember, I tried to have a reasonable go at breaking a type-3 fu'ivla up into the 'classifier' and the 'proper noun' bits. It just tries to split type 4 words as though they are lujvo, giving up when it gets left with a nonsensical suffix. jbofi'e parses "paslinku'i" as a single lujvo as Pierre reports. However, it currently parses "pa slinku'i" as 2 words, the second failing to completely decode because it's not a valid lujvo. John's comment indicates this should be grouped as 1 word - maybe the tokenising algorithm needs another revisit... Richard -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard P. Curnow rpc@myself.com Weston-super-Mare United Kingdom http://go.to/richard.curnow/